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New interview(s) with Robert Mruczek

Howdy folks! No, I’m totally not behind on literally everything and still taking on new projects anyway lmao. Not me! But it’s okay, this one’s a quickie.

In early 2019, following my discovery of the archived MTV footage featuring Billy Mitchell’s cheated DK score, I had the privilege of interviewing former Twin Galaxies Chief Referee Robert Mruczek. I was still merely dipping my toes into the vast totality of old TG lore, and so some of my questions were… Let’s just say, it was a 101 level course. Which is good. You need those. Then in late 2021, subsequent to my colleagues’ deep dive research project “The Video Game Fraud of the Century”, which launched this site, I was able to get Robert on the horn again. By then, I had accumulated a trove of questions, both about that project and Billy’s commenced litigation against TG.

You can find both of those interviews here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-fciUtMtDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah8gO4c4Zn4

Unfortunately, I still had a bunch of questions left over when my three-hour window for the 2021 interview expired. Without getting into my personal life, I don’t get many good opportunities to record media free of interruptions or background noise – at least, not during the strict daytime hours Robert operates in. And Robert has his own restrictions as well.

We always talked about getting together for a “Part 3”, especially once the TG lawsuit was done, but our opportunities never overlapped… until last month, when I found myself house-sitting somewhere on short notice. The first thing I did was call Mruczek and say “Hey, you wanna do that part three interview, like tomorrow?” And unlike previous opportunities where he wasn’t feeling it, or the short notice didn’t work for him, the good man said “Fuck yeah, let’s fucking do it!!” (Or words to that effect.)

I guess all this prefacing isn’t totally necessary. I just wanted to assure everyone that I am busily catching up on things I’ve promised, “Fallout Roundup”, etc. And there are a BUNCH of other people I want to interview, and if you’re one of them I do look forward to it. But with our conflicting restrictions and accumulated missed connections, Robert’s a special case. I bumped him to the front of the line one more time.

May I present to you our brand new, nearly four-hour interview, recorded on the afternoon of Sunday, April 17th:

We cover SO MANY TOPICS, including stuff you’ve never heard Robert discuss in any other interview. I exhausted my stand-by question list I’d had on file, and then some. We got more insights into TG’s past, behind-the-scenes lawsuit details, as well as a few curious admissions lol.

I acknowledge that people have complained about the audio in our previous interviews. One was recorded speakerphone-to-microphone, and the other with Robert on Skype. They always sound fine to me, maybe not perfect but at least intelligible. I suspect the root issue is that I’m listening with open speakers, whereas folks using headphones find the uneven audio unmanageable. I’d hoped to solve it this time by recording Robert’s and my segments separately, so everything could be equalized. And then I discovered Skype doesn’t exist anymore lmao. It’s now “Microsoft Teams”, which had a reasonable monthly rate, except with a note that says the rate is “Paid Annually”. I know what that means!! And Robert doesn’t have Discord, and he preferred to talk on his traditional phone. I said “Fuck it” and went back to the original setup, albeit with a better speakerphone and a better microphone. It is what it is. Also, you can hear spring allergy season affecting me a bit. A total ramshackle operation here, as always.

Sincerely though, thank you SO SO much Robert for giving so freely of your time, as you always have. The historical record of competitive video gaming remains forever in your debt.

BUT WAIT!!!

THERE’S MORE!!!!

I promise, there is not a sneaky Arm & Hammer sponsorship here. In the years since our previous interview, Robert had participated in a sworn deposition in the TG lawsuit. And a deposition is kinda like a bonus interview, right? I do ask Robert about that deposition in our new chat. But it just so happens… I have been in possession of that very deposition transcript!

I know, for a quick announcement about a Robert Mruczek interview, I’m sure doing a lot of extra talking. But I really am obliged to make a clarification here:

I’ve had this deposition transcript for a long time. You see, being the interested journalist that I am, pursuant to polite requests, I was being provided discovery material by a party with direct access to litigation materials. I’m not going to identify who that party was, but if you followed the saga, you know it’s a short list of candidates lol. It sure as Hell wasn’t Billy Junior giving me this shit! This was how I got access to Billy’s interrogatory answers, and the shocking Guinness correspondence, among other things. As I understand it, this is also how Karl Jobst got some of the deposition material he featured in his videos.

The reason I have to spell all this out is because, eventually, Billy’s side whined to the court about how this testimony and evidence makes their client look bad (because of course it does lmao). Thus, the court issued a protective order designating all further depositions and discovery material confidential. And sadly, I believe that order may stand in perpetuity, denying gaming historians access to the latter stages of this pivotal proceeding. However – and this is why I have to spell this out – I was provided this transcript well before that ruling, and the parties’ binding confidentiality order does not apply to me. In other words, nobody broke any rules in the provision or publication of this deposition. The spigot did eventually run dry for new material, but I am more-or-less free to use whatever I had accumulated prior to that point.

And yes, I do have more depositions, also given to me prior to the confidentiality order, and I would like to publish them as well. I also have a ton of material related to the now-removed dispute threads for both Donkey Kong and Dragster. I have to go through it all first. And that’s between working a regular job. It’s a one-thing-at-a-time situation, especially since these score disputes are now more about gaming history than they are about gaming current events.

And there are other reasons why these things don’t simply get thrown on the website in full. This deposition transcript came to me in the form of a .pdf, much like the one for Billy’s deposition. I ran this by Mruczek, and everything was fine, exceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeept Robert was asked for his home address, and he provided it under oath. And if you listen to our interviews, you know Robert’s had to deal with far too much nonsense from unhinged psychos like Rudy Ferretti. Editing a pdf is an option (which I admittedly have no experience in), but I’m also concerned about residual stuff like metadata, which you don’t always see but which could retain some of the text you think you’re redacting. We’ve seen these mishaps before! The pdf also comes with an index of used terms and page references at the end; literally as I was writing this, I checked and sure as shit a savvy reader could have pieced together Robert’s address from that index alone.

That’s why I’m careful! But Robert and I agreed everything else checks out, and it was time to share this with the world. You can find the entire deposition text, twice-copied into a plain text file, minus the index and with Robert’s personal info ######ed out, here:

https://perfectpacman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Deposition-Transcript-Robert-Mruczek-2023-07-21.txt

And I’ll show some highlights here by way of screenshots from the original pdf. First, it seems they had some audio difficulties along the way:

Tash begins the questioning, spending most of his time going over foundation we should all be very familiar with at this point. Robert adjudicated Billy’s 1.047m tape, he didn’t know about the MAME signatures until much later, etc. I won’t go over all of that here, because you know the facts, and we’d be here all day, although the value on this occasion is that Robert’s answers are under sworn oath.

But there are some interesting new bits. Robert Mruczek actually loaned out the VHS he received from Billy to Stephen Totilo of MTV, to help them put together their video segment:

Robert recalls that it was not only his own but also Walter Day’s opinion (at least at first) that Wiebe should be recognized as the first million-point scorer on TG since he submitted his tape first:

Robert discussed the role of Billy’s Pac-Man friend Chris Ayra in getting Wiebe’s first million point score disqualified:

Robert also recalled Billy’s grandstanding about his withdrawn 1.014m tape at the Lincoln Center in New York in 2004:

And yes, Robert acknowledges that Billy Mitchell was given the benefit of the doubt for his direct feed tapes, and that TG typically didn’t make Billy sign the submission form required of every other player:

Robert also alludes to TG shoring up its policy on direct feed tapes over the years:

Robert recalled Roy Shildt (“Mr. Awesome”) always calling Billy’s scores into question, but never bringing any observations of substance:

When asked about ownership of Twin Galaxies, Robert volunteered a recollection about a lawsuit Walter Day had waged against “some other third-party investor”:

More on that a bit later. Starting on page 92, Tash yields the floor to Billy’s team, with our old pal Kristina Ross on point for questioning. Her job of course is to cast doubt on Robert’s recollections about Billy’s tapes, the chain of custody, etc. She asks about the tape’s loan to Totilo, with Mruczek assuring her that he did get the tape back:

Robert discusses freely his recollections of stock ownership percentages, and what Walter Day had promised to him and others. When asked about this, Robert explained how he later discovered these ownership assurances from Walter were all a lie:

At some point, the discussion turned toward eight-way joysticks:

I believe Billy Mitchell’s deposition was the very first in this lawsuit. And so this sort of questioning could be an attempt to negate the obvious blunder Billy had walked into, insisting he would never use anything but a stock original joystick. Note that Robert’s recollection of watching Wiebe’s tape at a Funspot (“ACAM”) event matches this video on YouTube, wherein Robert, Dwayne Richard, Brian Kuh, and Todd Rogers are nitpicking one of Wiebe’s tapes, with Dwayne in particular certain that foul play was somehow afoot. (I have asked DK experts about this, and they say that while Wiebe grazes some hitboxes about as close as you possibly can, it’s not the kind of thing you wouldn’t see in top level DK play.)

For the most part, Ross avails herself well enough for a normie lawyer who had spent the last year of her life wading through Donkey Kong feces. But there are some slip-ups. She asked Robert if he heard joystick-clicking… on Billy’s tape… which was supposedly “direct feed” with no external audio:

Obviously “I know this is a horseshit question and I hope to mislead people anyway” is always a possibility when lawyers are involved. But over the course of the lawsuit, there were enough head-scratchers from their side that I was left wondering how well they understood the facts of their own case.

Robert also recalled some fantastic claims from Billy about all the ample video evidence he would one day provide of his FAMB score:

Now, I feel compelled to add some outside context to some of Ross’ questioning, for the historical record. Robert and I have kept somewhat in touch since our first interview in 2019, and so I had the opportunity to chat with him prior to his 2023 deposition. For legal reasons, I must make clear that I was never at any time asked or prodded or prompted or compelled or advised or suggested or urged or directed by any other party to discuss the TG lawsuit or any related ongoings with Robert, and that I did so strictly of my own initiative, motivated by nothing but my personal desire to see good things happen and bad things not happen. But I just know Robert. He does outstanding interviews, where all you have to do is prompt him a bit, and he will talk and talk and talk about all the truly fascinating details of competitive gaming history you want to hear. (Which makes my job easy!) But a deposition is an entirely different format. Obviously, you’re obliged to answer each question, and to do so truthfully. But I walked Mruczek through my own perspective about why sometimes, in some contexts, it can be good to keep one’s answers short, perhaps even a simple and unqualified “Yes” or “No”. And in the moment of our conversation, I felt Robert and I were on the same page, so all would be good.

When I later saw the transcript, I learned that Robert and I were not, in fact, on the same page. The guy is just too darn helpful! If you wanna know something, he’ll tell you that and everything else. It is why we like Robert. Anyway, if you read the questioning, you’ll notice that even Ms. Ross – the lawyer for the bad guy trying to scour for ammo to rip into Robert Mruczek’s credibility – even she at times had to be like “Okay, we don’t need to hear EVERYTHING.”

Robert was asked about the claim from Billy’s September 2019 evidence packet that he stole the 1.047m tape from Brian Kuh. Robert calls this story “a flat-out lie”:

On page 145, we start to get into some lawyerly fireworks! Ross gave Mruczek a snide remark, asking why he would remember some events from 17 years ago better than he remembers other events from 3 years ago. (That’s how memory works, you snake!) Tash jumps in to advise Robert not to answer the “argumentative question”, and suddenly shit starts flying. Even Tony Nimrod, getting paid to silently sit and supervise Kristina, swoops in to challenge Tash on instructing someone who is not his client:

This happens again a moment later, when Ross asks if Robert could provide some of his communications with Jace Hall. Robert is about to default to his helpful nature, when Tash informs Robert that no subpoena has been issued, and that he has no obligation at this time. Robert astutely defers to Tash’s advice:

There are times in the transcript when Robert and others seem to use the wrong word. Even though this transcript was apparently accepted as accurate, I would advise against taking these word choices as gospel rather than clerical errors. At one point, the reporter identifies the questioner as “Mr. Tashroudian”, even though this was still within Ross’ questioning window. This results in an odd moment where the transcript suggests Tash is objecting to his own question:

A truly legendary question and answer right here:

If I may pull the curtain back a bit, when I first went to interview Robert in 2019, he happily agreed, but asked that three topics remain off-limits. And of course I respected his wishes. In this next passage, Robert relates that he also asked Jace that these same three topics be off-limits for his deposition:

I believe this was restated for our 2021 interview, and so I again did not ask about these things. And indeed, two of the topics are overly personal and have no value in discussing. However, our spur-of-the-moment interview this time around had no prior understanding of this sort. This is why, when I asked Robert about his art collection, I did so in a careful way, allowing him to opt out and say “Woah, I just don’t want to discuss it” in a way which could be edited out of the final product. (If this was a hard-hitting exposé, you’re not really supposed to agree to self-censorship of that sort, but this was a friendly chat with nothing on the line.) And to my surprise, Robert opened up! I do give him a hard time on some of this, but he genuinely is a champ with these interviews, and that is not at all unappreciated.

Getting back to the deposition, Ross tried to undermine Robert’s credibility by harping heavily on the way in which he identified Billy’s MAME tape as the same one he adjudicated 20 years ago. In short, Robert compared the two by relying on three key identifiers (the visual glitch, the million point rollover, and the way Billy discarded remaining lives on the kill screen), rather than like a blow-by-blow recollection of the entirety of the tape. Obviously, key identifiers is how someone would remember a gaming performance several years later. But when you’re a lawyer and your client is a liar and your case sucks, I guess this is the kind of nitpicking you resort to:

On page 195, it becomes Tash’s turn again. Pursuant to Tash’s first question, Robert clarifies that he may have lent the 1.047m submission tape to Dwayne Richard at some point, but absolutely not before it was lent to Stephen Totilo for use in the MTV segment.

When recalling Billy’s million point rollover, Robert recalls that he had previously identified it as happening on an “elevator screen” (i.e., Donkey Kong’s “spring” level), but that it actually happened on a barrel board:

People sometimes impugn Robert’s memory, but this is actually an amazing counter-example. Robert had said for years the million point rollover happened on an elevator board, and then in our first interview I corrected him. The rollover on the 1.047m tape, as seen in “King of Kong”, happened on a barrel board. And Robert has remembered that correction, and applied it accordingly. However, I was later reminded that Robert did a thorough score breakdown of Billy’s phantom tape – the 1.014m score that was withdrawn, which was certainly also a bogus MAME tape. The only surviving evidence from that tape was Robert’s level-by-level score breakdown. And in that game play, Billy did the exact same gag, stalling on the top of a ladder to roll the score over at a million points – except, in that game, it was done on an elevator stage! (I didn’t think it was possible to do this and survive the springs, but DK players informed me you do have a small safety window at the top of the ladder to do this.) So Robert was correct as well! He didn’t dream up a rollover on the elevator stage. It really did happen, just on a different score submission.

During Tash’s follow-up questioning, he directs the conversation toward Todd Rogers. Robert recalled that Todd’s claimed high score on NES Donkey Kong was called into question early on by legendary speedrun pioneer Tom Votava:

And Robert expressed his regret at being so disappointed by Todd Rogers’ lies:

Lastly, when Ross was given the opportunity to ask follow-up questions, she narrowed in on exactly one topic. And you’ll never guess who that was:

My humble guess is that Krissy Ross probably didn’t give a shit about me or who I was – if she did, this would’ve found its way into earlier questioning. But before wrapping up, she had the client’s son in her ear going “Ask him about ersatz! Ask him about that ersatz guy!” And she was like “Fine, if it’ll make you happy.” You’ll notice she didn’t ask Robert for my phone number.

So there you have it! Two “interviews” for the price of one! That’s a pretty good outing, wouldn’t you say?

BUT WAIT!!!

THERE’S MORE!!!!

You see, in our new interview, Robert and I also discussed his legendary appearance on the All Games Interactive show in 2007. At some point, I should do a full write-up on this wrinkle of TG historical lore, but the whole AGI saga starts with the show host, Scot Rubin:

Nowadays he’s peddling frozen yogurt or some shit, but back in the day, he was involved with the original G4 TV network, and other gaming projects. And somehow he got acquainted with Roy Shildt, and Roy’s story of allegedly getting iced out for his contested Missile Command high score from 1985. This actually ends up being a whole multi-episode arc for Scot’s show, featuring several appearances by Roy, and a cameo by Todd Rogers (waaaay before the Dragster dispute). Some of these episodes are still archived on the Wayback Machine, but when I started researching this stuff in 2018, they were all available at their original hosting.

Far and away, the high point of this saga was when Scot got Roy Shildt AND Walter Day AND Robert Mruczek (post-resignation) all on the phone together, all at once. Yes, this was a 100% real non-hallucinated thing that really did happen. They all got on the same show to bicker for about three hours about Missile Command and trackball settings and Guinness and who verified what.

Add in other show topics and extended listener call-ins, and you get nearly eight hours. Being this was 2000s Internet, the download was split into eight segments. After my new interview with Mruczek, I dug back in my archives and found these old mp3s, and reassembled them for preservation on YouTube:

The Twin Galaxies segment starts at about 2:42:00. (Yes, that’s over two-and-a-half hours into the episode.) Roy melts down a couple times, but the best one can be found at about the 4:54:30 mark. Finally, the interviews end at around 5:30:00. I’ve uploaded the entire episode, because they keep referring to the saga before and after the segment. The video got copyright-flagged for brief clips of Tenacious D and Yakety Sax, and as a result it is apparently not available in Russia. Извини, но мы хотя бы сходимся во мнении, что Билли Митчелл похож на тающую кучу дерьма.

And that, my friends, is what we call a satisfying and comprehensive amount of new (or new-to-most-of-you) Robert Mruczek material.

That’s all you need, really.

There’s just no way you could top all this.

No way.

Not possible.

And definitely not for this price.

Not with a new interview, and a deposition, and an all-time classic segment unearthed from the ruins of the Internet.

There’s certainly no way you could ask for more.

Or expect more.

Or even imagine what “more” would possibly look like.

BUT WAIT!!!

THERE’S MORE!!!!

You see, like I said, I got Robert on the horn in kind of a hurry. And I thought I had properly collected all the questions I was burning to ask him over the years. But then afterward, when I really got into the weeds of deposition screenshots, and reviewed the All Games Interactive thing to make sure I didn’t have some stupid Windows notification playing music halfway through the recording (as I said, ramshackle operation), I realized there were about three resultant questions that were just dying to be asked. And it just wasn’t feasible to get Robert on the phone again for a supplemental YouTube bit. But I had his email, so I just posed him these three questions directly.

First, I asked Robert whether the special event being proposed in the AGI segment ever went anywhere:

The “Let Me Finish” tirade was because Roy clearly had it in mind to issue this so-called “challenge” to Tony during this interview as he probably felt that doing so would carry maximum impact. As usual it fell flat, regardless of how Walter tried to spin the possibility.

One of Roy’s other challenges involved a meeting between Roy and Tony BUT required that Tony travel to where Roy was. Consider the relative distance and hardship for Tony to get there as compared to Roy. And Roy’s typical “challenges” were of a “do this or else” nature…show up or you are yellow, show up or you are not a true champion, etc. I can’t speak for Tony BUT it was crystal clear that he did not want to participate in these 3-ring circus type “challenges” that Roy came up with.

Not ONE of the “challenges”, BTW, was ever straight-forward…they were always conveyed with one or more caveats, especially with respect to the “rules” and settings. For example, that best score after 100 waves crap. Roy knew damn well that after wave 100 there stood the chance of a kind of “ultra wave” where a lot more missiles and smart bombs than usual came out, perhaps the hardest wave possible in the game. True experts knew of this and looked forward to the challenge of handling these waves, but Roy’s 100-wave “highest quality challenge” nonsense was custom-tailored so that he did not have to face this possibility.

Going back to the AGN “challenge” that he issued, again I was no longer a TG participant at that point so was not in direct communication with Walter as to what plans, if any, he had in mind. But in hindsight it is most curious to me why Walter would even entertain this possibility in the first place as it would not prove anything…except to Roy. At that point in time Tony had raised the TGTS record to one that was too high for Roy to ever hope to reach, and Jeff Blair…who preferred playing at the slower trackball speed, was also coming on the scene although I cannot remember without looking up in the TG database exactly when his own personal best trounced Roy’s. So at this point all Roy had left to strive for was this 100-wave “challenge” nonsense.

On an amusing aside, at some point…JUST to annoy the bejesus out of Roy…fellow MC player Jon Zabel and I came up with the “Highest Points per Missile Challenge”…kind of to steal Roy’s thunder about that 100 wave BS. Our challenge, which was never formally created as a TG challenge variation, was this…you were ONLY allowed to use three (3) missiles per base. If you fired a 4th then the score was nullified, much like was the case with the “Donkey Kong No Hammer Challenge”.

In our “challenge” we posted to the TG forum our inaugural scores. Jon was in the 20K range and I was very close behind in second place. There were never any other people posting what they had accomplished, not even Tony who preferred to politely ignore this with a 10 foot pole !! It was a serious challenge and in truth quite difficult to survive into the 5th level (5x)…I think Jon made it into the 11th screen whereas I died in either the 9th or 10th. The odds [against] surviving further were quite high, never mind reaching 30K.

In any event, the purpose again was to dilute Roy’s thunder from his BS “challenge” and to that extent it worked as in short order you never heard him squawking about it again. Oh, he keeps talking about his alleged score that he achieved thru wave 100, but in truth no one gives a crap about it. Now, he MIGHT have convinced those jackasses at Guinness to recognize this as a world record, but considering how they first stated in the 2007 Gamer edition that Roy’s settings were “harder” [than] Tony’s…without performing ANY vetting on that assessment other than taking Roy’s own word for it…only to retract and re-issue that edition without those comments goes to show just how little confidence anyone had with them at that point as they clearly caved in rather than deal with yet another gaming-related media sh*t-storm as they had done so with GBF and his “Pacman” score being unrecognized by TG.

I believe that means “No, it didn’t happen.” My next question came to mind when I poked through Robert’s deposition and saw him remark on Walter Day’s 2001 lawsuit against unidentified “investors”. I’m not sure if I caught this when I first received the deposition transcript, but this is obviously a reference to Day’s litigation against “KJ Investments”, which my colleagues unearthed during research for “Video Game Fraud of the Century”, as read in “Dot Seven”. We’ve always been curious about this case, but the filings are not online and we lack someone local in Iowa willing to visit the courthouse and see what they can acquire. I dropped the ball here, because it hadn’t occurred to me Robert would have any personal knowledge of this lawsuit. But I was happy to ask him about it as a follow-up:

When I came onboard I found out that TG, at the time, had a staff comprised of (I was told) around 80-85 people and that some “billionaire” (as per Walter) had invested in TG as a kind of present for his trophy wife or girlfriend. To this day I never found out who that man was. In any event, as I was told by Walter, at some point the “billionaire” was trying to wrest TG away from Walter and for a short while the outcome of TG was in doubt. Eventually, Walter prevailed and there was some kind of financial settlement…part of which was used to purchase all new server equipment for TG (which Ron Corcoran and Brien King arranged for) as well as the programming/design for an entirely new TG website (which Brien, thru his “Dark Horse Productions” company did). At that point full control was restored to TG, and the OLD website was gone.

One annoying aspect of that old website and server system was that the database was if I remember what Corcoran told me “PERL-based” and only Walter, at point-of-origin, was able to impact the database either creating new platforms, titles, variations and entering scores.

At some point we had to rely on adding scores via an ACCESS.MDB file being created and uploaded, and that was handled by Douglas MacGregor…I forget if that was before Brien’s new database was rolled out. And once it was, the referees (Walter, Corcoran, Stephen Knox, myself, and by default Brien King who was the programmer and CTO by then) could finally enter platforms, titles, variations and scores.

Back to that lawsuit, until it was resolved those were the uncertain days in TG history. That “billionaire” had an interest in gaming scores but was never, as I was told, really passionate about it. Had he won that lawsuit, TG would have effectively been on a whole new path and I seriously doubt things would have worked out later on the way that they did.

Lastly, Robert recalled previous instances of “direct feed” scores for TG. This caught my eye, as I’m aware Chris Gleed hadn’t developed his pioneering Donkey Kong direct feed until many years later. What player could have possibly been recording and submitting direct feed tapes so early?

So I emailed Robert one more time. And he gave the only examples he could recall, of early direct feed tapes from a player. And you’ll never guess who that player was:

I saw Billy bring a direct-feed “Centipede” performance (NOT a WR) to the Mall of America first event as well as a “Pacman” kill-screen for demo purposes. These were NOT score submissions but Walter and Billy made NO statement that they were not.

However, Billy’s 1.014M CLEARLY was direct-feed…that’s the one that he submitted after Steve’s 1.006M on DK was received AND it was originally Billy’s intent for that to be a TG score submission. Walter had no problem with it JUST has he had no problem with Billy’s 1.047M DK performance shown at the ACAM 2005 event.

To further clarify…while I and I alone vetted the 1.014M, Walter was informed it was direct feed and that did not result in any blowback. But the 1.047M performance was viewed in front of multiple people both before and during that event in 2005 and Walter personally entered that one into the TG database.

Of special note…NEITHER of Billy’s performances was submitted WITH an officially completed and signed TG “Player Submission Agreement Form”, and that also shows the double-standard that was applied towards Billy.

Hahah, amazing stuff!

That really is it this time. I would like to thank

NO! NO! Go away, other-Billy. This really is the end this time. Once again, thank you so, so much Robert Mruczek for always giving so freely of your time and energy and knowledge. And thank you all for reading. Yes, as I’m wrapping this up, there is more movement in the new Karl-vs-Billy Florida lawsuit. Things are getting spicy! We’ll get an update on that soon. Until then, may your scores be high and your speedruns be swift.

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